RYANAIR PILOTS TOLD TO FLY PLANES SLOWER

Have just read a wonderful piece in the Daily Mail, about Ryanair. Apparently their pilots have been told to fly slower, as by flying just two minutes per hour slower (3.3 %) they save 15% of the fuel consumption.
After looking at this, I work out that if they fly about 22% slower, they wouldn't use any fuel at all

La Marina

Sounds like a good idea to me. If they fly slower then I wouldn't have to hear that trumpet sound telling me they have arrived on time. The next suggestion is that they just have catapults on each runway and just glide the route, that will make the pilots earn their money.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-07-31 09:32:23 UTC

Alan and Marco, what a hoot. The only good thing I can say about them is that they usually give us an extra seat because I have to use my wheelchair in airports. I had a pal terrified of flying. Her husband knew the pilots at Dan Air so had told them of her plight. On her first ever flight the captain announced over the radio " I'm sorry people, we have to speed up as the plane behind is catching up". Poor Roz I won't tell you the result. I think this is true, she told me about 40 years ago Mary catherine xx

Commented mazza in La Marina 2013-07-31 11:26:54 UTC

Another comment was that they were going to put adverts inside and outside the planes.Would be great if easyjet took up the advertising space and stated that easyjet was a much superior airline than Ryanair.

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-07-31 11:40:56 UTC

Your giving away your age now mazza. Didn't Dan Air operate using Lancaster Bombers?

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-07-31 12:04:07 UTC

No ,He was in one of the comics,years ago,Famous for eating cow-pie.
Oh wait a minute that could of been Dan Dare.
No may still have it wrong,perhaps it was Desperate Dan in a comic called Dan dare.
Oh I don't know,all this Bar and Charity chat has addled my brain

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-07-31 12:05:54 UTC

Alan, I think your giving away your age now...

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-07-31 12:53:52 UTC

Will not divulge my age except to say ,I think I am around four-five years younger than Mazza.
I just hope I got it right, or I am going to get some stick from Mazza

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-07-31 13:21:25 UTC

If they flew any slower they would stay up there all day!

Commented Peter Horsfield in La Marina 2013-07-31 13:45:54 UTC

No, that's the forward thinking for Ryan Air 2016 plan. Don't land, just shove the pensioners out mid-flight. Parachute costs are an additional extra though

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-07-31 15:46:39 UTC

Ageism creeping in there Marko,Glad I only fly BA,so this is one pensioner you aint gonna get rid of.

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-07-31 16:07:42 UTC

Marco, cheeky sod. When I was 18 I wanted to go to see my boyfriend in Glasgow, he'd been to see me a couple of times. Mum wasn't having her baby going on trains or coaches in January so big bro Joe who worked for BEA financed the flight. G
Going wasn't bad but coming back there was a lot of weather. We actually flew in a Dacota. There were about 5 of us. This old plane rattled and groaned and frightened me to death. I might add I married the boy, a holiday romance that lasted 38 years Mary Catherine xx

Commented mazza in La Marina 2013-07-31 17:22:47 UTC

Alan,
Can you explain how you can fly two minutes an hour slower please as this startling breakthrough could be a way to minimise the aging effect.
I think that you might have meant that by flying a few miles an hour slower, the planes use an estimated 15% less fuel. Not exactly a new discovery as any driver will tell you that you consume more fuel at higher speeds.
You seem to have used a linear extrapolation to arrive at the 22% at which point no fuel would be needed, a basic mis-calculation of speed & fuel usage as well as an illogical assumption.
As for the "rubbish that the Daily Mail print" that came from Ryanair's own calculations and unless you've been involved in aircraft design at some point, I suggest that their calculations are probably more reliable than yours - and that's from someone who won't fly Ryanair out of choice.
Why do you say that "But mainly it shows just how even the big boys can start a rumour without any proof that it may be true" when every driver knows that reducing speed saves fuel.
I know that you feel that you have to comment on just about everything but some of your posts are quite frankly, ridiculous, and a moment's reflection might be worth while before pressing the enter button.

Commented David in La Marina 2013-08-01 11:53:35 UTC

David, are you for real? I'd rather go off Alan's calculations than Ryan Air. Didn't they have to declare two emergency landings last year due to low fuel? I think I read that in the Daily Mail as well.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-08-01 12:09:05 UTC

The item from the Daily Mail and reported in many other papers stated -
Ryanair pilots ordered to fly SLOWER to save fuel as planes are turned into airborne billboards in bid to reverse fall in profits.
Two minutes added to every hour of flying cutting fuel costs by 15%.
You stated - " as by flying just two minutes per hour slower" which is very different to the paper's headline statement. I also still stand by my statement that you cannot fly two minutes an hour slower. You can fly slower and add two minutes per scheduled hour longer but that is not what you said.

By the way, this was reported in the Sydney Herald and the Daily Telegragh so not just the Daily Mail printing rubbish but it would seem the press worldwide

Commented David in La Marina 2013-08-01 12:37:15 UTC

David
I don't think I said about flying two minutes an hour slower,I am sure I said something about the Daily Mail had been told that Ryanair told pilots to fly two minutes an hour slower,and thereby Ryanair would save 15% of the fuel they use.
my opinion is that two minutes an hour,means what you normally do in one hour you should do in one hour two
and two minutes flus a few seconds.(I converted this figures into 3.3%)
I think you missed the aside about this comment,which I think to most people would of been obvious,A few of us have been making comments light heartedly, to get away from the rumours that have been evident on this forum recently,I have no problem with that at all,you cant please all the people all the time.
Mind you a little bit pissed off about you pointing out how much I write on this forum,now my wife will realize what I am really doing when I tell her I am going out with some young Lady who fancies me,and wants rampant sex with me.yes I can understand why you feel some of my comments are ridiculous,you have just proved why

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-08-01 12:54:56 UTC

Thank you for correcting me David I wasn't word perfect,but you look like you are determined to find fault with something or other
As for other papers also reporting it,i didn't read other papers I read the Daily Mail,so why would I know or indeed say something I didn't know.
Ps I did change my original comment to you, As on reading it,i think I spent to much time explaining other things that lowered petrol consumption in cars

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-08-01 13:04:13 UTC

Alan, shame on you for not reading the Sydney Herald. Along with the Wellington Post, they are must reads every morning.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-08-01 13:29:13 UTC

marko
Yes fully agree with you .As you must know I order every newspaper,but unfortunately my paperboy is new and keeps on messing up my order,and half the time I end up getting comics. I have closed my account with the newsagent,but am having difficulty,finding one who can give me the service I believe I merit. Hence the reason I make mistakes in reporting newspaper reports, Its no wonder David finds some of my comments ridiculous, Sometimes I read them and have the same feeling, but I keep quiet about it

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-08-01 13:43:05 UTC

Oi David, lighten up and don't you dare have a go at my dad Alan again. Calm down dad Mary Catherine xxx

Commented mazza in La Marina 2013-08-01 16:04:50 UTC

So it's alright for your dad to comment on other people's posts, but I mustn't comment on anything he says.
Well, sorry to disappoint you, but on the infrequent occasion that I feel an over-riding need to comment on something that has been posted, I will do and your demands that your dad is a comment-free zone will of course be totally ignored.

Commented David in La Marina 2013-08-02 08:49:51 UTC

Well said David!

Commented Poppy in La Marina 2013-08-02 08:58:50 UTC

David
Sorry to disappoint you,but Alan is not Mazza's Dad,t his is not a rumour I can prove it, I have Alans birth certificate which proves without doubt that Mazza cannot be his Daughter. Although Alan did admit, That mazza sounds a really lovely person. I am sure you really knew that, but you wanted to join in the fun to lighten up this Forum, If you did believe it then you must be one hell of a selective reader of comments on this Forum.As it has been pointed out when Mazza was born and Alan then stated he was about 5 years YOUNGER than her (that is the proof surely about Mazza's Parentage.I hope you get the gist of this,

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-08-02 09:07:03 UTC

I wish I knew what on earth you were talking about.
I posted a response to something Alan wrote and one of the comments back was -
"Oi David, lighten up and don't you dare have a go at my dad Alan again. Calm down dad Mary Catherine xxx " and the id given was Mazza
From this comment it's not unreasonable to assume the author's dad is named Alan and he's the person who wrote the original nonsense, and Mary Catherine has told her dad to calm down. Again it's not unreasonable for me to assume that Mazza is the forum's pseudonym for Mary!!
Hence my post in response to that. I really couldn't care two hoots about the family tree of those involved and if Mazza/Mary/Alan are or are not related, well, please don't bother to explain it all to me as I don't care.

Commented David in La Marina 2013-08-02 12:28:20 UTC

Mazza,
Another fine mess you have got me into.
David is completely confused now

Commented Alan in La Marina 2013-08-02 13:43:50 UTC

Alan, it gave me a laugh so it must be good Mary Catherine xx

Commented mazza in La Marina 2013-08-02 14:31:26 UTC

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0729/465324-ryanair-pilots-employment-arrangements-criticised/
Not Ryan Air bashing just passing on some news = but this is from someone who will only fly Monarch

Commented Souxie in La Marina 2013-08-02 14:48:37 UTC

David/ Poppy, stop slagging off my adopted Grand-Parents of Alan and Mazza. I'll have you know that they both fought at Rourke's Drift (ok on the Zulu side, but let bygones be bygones). What is it with all this negativity? I come from a town in the North of England, where most of the inhabitants have basically given up. I will go down kicking and screaming that it doesn't in this area. We need to support businesses rather than finding fault.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-08-02 18:52:12 UTC

Marco, you're sailing very close to the wind. Any more cheek and we'll write you out of the will Mary Catherine. xxx You only get away with it because you make me laugh xxx

Commented mazza in La Marina 2013-08-02 20:06:03 UTC

Another pointless over senseless thread

Commented FOX160 in La Marina 2013-08-02 20:16:58 UTC

Foxy, if you want to insult, may I ask that you do it in English. It took me three attempts to work out what you were going on about.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-08-02 20:30:35 UTC

Foxy, let me explain. You may describe the thread as either pointless OR senseless. I don't think you can be 'over senseless' but in your case, I may be wrong.

Commented marko in Quesada 2013-08-02 20:57:57 UTC